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Difference between a statement and an invoice?
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Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-10 22:34:44 UTC
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Newbie here :-) Different from MYOB.
What is the difference between a statement and an invoice?

I normally print an invoice when due, but printing statements causes all
customers to be printed even if there is a zero balance.

Also, having trouble finding out how to take existing transactions and make
them recurring or memorized on an annual basis. After reading manual that
seems to be related, I'm not finding much help.
Jeff
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Tee
2005-01-10 23:40:18 UTC
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Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Newbie here :-) Different from MYOB.
What is the difference between a statement and an invoice?
I normally print an invoice when due, but printing statements causes all
customers to be printed even if there is a zero balance.
Statements are a list of invoices. Invoices are individual bills you send
to a customer. Statements are very customizable. You tell Quickbooks which
customer(s) to print, the date range to include, whether or not to include
zero balance invoices, whether to print one statement per customer or per
job that customer has open, etc. Read the options available to you on the
Create Statements screen.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Also, having trouble finding out how to take existing transactions and make
them recurring or memorized on an annual basis. After reading manual that
seems to be related, I'm not finding much help.
After you've created a transaction (save & close out of it), double-click to
get back into it (or use 'previous' in the same function) to pull it back
up. Don't change anything, just have it onscreen. Go to Edit then select
'Memorize.......' It'll say check, invoice, bill after Memorize depending
on what you're looking at. Then look at your options. To have something
entered automatically choose that option then select the frequency it should
be entered and how many days before its due to record it.

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Tara
Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-11 01:10:11 UTC
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Thanks again Tara,
I am backfilling Dec. Invoices paid in Jan. So I first filled out a Sales
Receipt before creating an invoice. That left an odd item in my client
Company transaction list. I cannot tell if it was actually registering as a
duplicate deposit or if it is merely an accounting notation.

I then received the money but first created an bill for 12/1/04 so that it
could be allocated. I then saw in the register a Statement Charge rather
than an invoice, which I was going to memorize, but I'm not sure what a
statement charge is vs. an invoice. I deleted it and reentered an invoice.
Then received the money.

I had checked 'deposit to checking acct' rather than group with undeposited
funds. However it appeared to be in A/R until I later went back and pressed
Auto apply. Seems you have to make several steps to apply received monies
to get it to register properly? I use a cash based accounting and deposit
the money usually the same day I log it in, so I don't use undeposited
funds. It seems to be a wasteful, added step for me. However, I was able to
memorize my transactions with your instructions, thanks. If you choose auto
enter an invoice, does it show up in the Print Invoices window when due, or
how do you look for another 'reminder' of a due transaction. I chose not to
use remind me on the anniversary...
Thanks again

Jeff
Post by Tee
Statements are a list of invoices. Invoices are individual bills you send
to a customer. Statements are very customizable. You tell Quickbooks which
customer(s) to print, the date range to include, whether or not to include
zero balance invoices, whether to print one statement per customer or per
job that customer has open, etc. Read the options available to you on the
Create Statements screen.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Also, having trouble finding out how to take existing transactions and make
them recurring or memorized on an annual basis. After reading manual that
seems to be related, I'm not finding much help.
After you've created a transaction (save & close out of it), double-click to
get back into it (or use 'previous' in the same function) to pull it back
up. Don't change anything, just have it onscreen. Go to Edit then select
'Memorize.......' It'll say check, invoice, bill after Memorize depending
on what you're looking at. Then look at your options. To have something
entered automatically choose that option then select the frequency it should
be entered and how many days before its due to record it.
--
Tara
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jefferis Peterson, Pres.
Web Design and Marketing
http://www.PetersonSales.com
Tee
2005-01-11 01:25:05 UTC
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Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Thanks again Tara,
I am backfilling Dec. Invoices paid in Jan. So I first filled out a Sales
Receipt before creating an invoice.
Okay, use one or the other but not both. A Sales Receipt is the same as an
Invoice with the exception that an Invoice is allowed to have an open
balance whereas a Sales Receipt is a sale where money was received in full.
You can use Invoices for the same thing though and I recommend people do
that. If you always use invoices then you'll always be looking at the same
screens. When you use a Sales Receipt QB automatically places the money
received either undeposited funds or the bank account. With invoices you
manually receive payments then tell QB where to put the money.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
That left an odd item in my client
Company transaction list. I cannot tell if it was actually registering as a
duplicate deposit or if it is merely an accounting notation.
If you recorded a sales receipt then QB recorded that you received the
money. If you then created an invoice, and received money for it, then
you've doubled the transaction. Decide whether or not you plan to use both
features or just invoices. Void the extraneous sale.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
I then received the money but first created an bill for 12/1/04 so that it
could be allocated.
You've confused me here. 'Bill' in QB means something to be paid by you.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
I then saw in the register a Statement Charge rather
than an invoice, which I was going to memorize, but I'm not sure what a
statement charge is vs. an invoice. I deleted it and reentered an invoice.
Then received the money.
Generally a statement charge is a percentage or flat fee used as a finance
charge for a customer account. An example would be charging 3% of open
balances on the 1st of every month. By creating a statement for open
invoices you can add that statement charge in.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
I had checked 'deposit to checking acct' rather than group with undeposited
funds. However it appeared to be in A/R until I later went back and pressed
Auto apply. Seems you have to make several steps to apply received monies
to get it to register properly?
I think you've used at least two, possibly three, methods of recording a
sale for a customer when you should have only used one. If you use Sales
Receipt then you're telling QB that you've got the money in hand and you
select the option on the Sales Receipt to either deposit to checking or
place in undeposited funds. If you do the latter then you have to go to
Make Deposits and select that money to actually place it in the checking
account. If you use an invoice, without a payment line item created &
entered, then the sale automatically goes into Accounts Receivable until you
tell QB the customer paid you. Then you go to Customers > Receive Payments
and select whether to place the money into checking or undeposited funds.
If the latter then repeat the Make Deposits action.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
I use a cash based accounting and deposit
the money usually the same day I log it in, so I don't use undeposited
funds. It seems to be a wasteful, added step for me.
Many people think that and its fine as long as you don't make deposits with
several customer payments on them. If you do the latter then you'll have
extra work at bank statement reconciliation time. You'll be trying to match
a bank deposit showing $750 with 3 different customer payments you (inside
QB) deposited separately to checking.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
However, I was able to
memorize my transactions with your instructions, thanks. If you choose auto
enter an invoice, does it show up in the Print Invoices window when due, or
how do you look for another 'reminder' of a due transaction. I chose not to
use remind me on the anniversary...
It should show up as long as you have your invoices checked to print upon
saving. If you don't then it'll just record the invoice to Accounts
Receivable and you'll have to double-click into the invoice to print it.
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Tara
Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-11 03:13:46 UTC
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Thank you for your excellent help. I think what is messing me up is that QB
uses terminology a bit differently than MYOB and I'm trying to accomplish
the transfer and setup in 2 days of a full client base and invoice clients
at the same time for current charges. :-) Nothing like transitions!

But I meant invoice the client. My background is that you "bill your
clients" for work. I had to create an historical invoice to allocate the
received monies. Now that I realize that grouping with undeposited funds
allows reconciliation, I'll consider that option. MYOB did not allow me to
reconcile my bank statements since it did not offer good import/export
formats. I used Quicken for all my banking and MYOB for all time tracking
and invoicing, and recurring invoices. By switching over to QB, I hope to
eliminate the multiple programs I have been using to do one job. However, it
seems I still need to use Quicken for my home finances and Stock info.

Jeff
Post by Tee
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
I then received the money but first created an bill for 12/1/04 so that it
could be allocated.
You've confused me here. 'Bill' in QB means something to be paid by you.
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Tee
2005-01-11 04:14:54 UTC
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Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Thank you for your excellent help. I think what is messing me up is that QB
uses terminology a bit differently than MYOB and I'm trying to accomplish
the transfer and setup in 2 days of a full client base and invoice clients
at the same time for current charges. :-) Nothing like transitions!
You'll find Quickbooks to be more user-friendly, more user-changable & more
direct than MYOB. I switched from QB for Mac to MYOB AccountEdge and found
that program to be a total PITA. I had to jump through a ton of hoops (or
screens & clicks) to accomplish the simplest of things. MYOB didn't allow
me to edit things as easily as QB does and it I found the interface to be
less direct than QB. It took many more minutes of clicking through screens
to get to everyday information in MYOB than I was used to. Luckily I did
double books during that time and ended up going back to QB full time and
dropping MYOB. Its a nice progra, it does what it says it does, but its not
a program for a QB user to switch over to without inviting a ton of gray
hair & migraines.
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Tara
Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-11 04:40:41 UTC
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I concur. I wrote a review of MYOB about the monstrous, counterintuitive
interface and the endless hoops you have to jump through to make simple
changes. Nothing in the menu system is integrated with other parts of the
program. I ended up giving up on it for all things except time tracking in
actual time and invoicing. The other problem with it is that it does not
export to Turbotax, and it doesn't integrate with banks, etc. At least not
my version Account Edge 2. I never bothered to upgrade and that version now
seems locked in 2001-2003 range on some features. The latest version I hear
is no better, requiring online authentication every time you use it.
I am already finding QB already much easier, more intuitive, and close to
Quicken, which I love.

Jeff
Post by Tee
You'll find Quickbooks to be more user-friendly, more user-changable & more
direct than MYOB. I switched from QB for Mac to MYOB AccountEdge and found
that program to be a total PITA. I had to jump through a ton of hoops (or
screens & clicks) to accomplish the simplest of things. MYOB didn't allow
me to edit things as easily as QB does and it I found the interface to be
less direct than QB. It took many more minutes of clicking through screens
to get to everyday information in MYOB than I was used to. Luckily I did
double books during that time and ended up going back to QB full time and
dropping MYOB. Its a nice progra, it does what it says it does, but its not
a program for a QB user to switch over to without inviting a ton of gray
hair & migraines.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jefferis Peterson, Pres.
Web Design and Marketing
http://www.PetersonSales.com
JerryMouse
2005-01-12 00:14:33 UTC
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Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Newbie here :-) Different from MYOB.
What is the difference between a statement and an invoice?
I normally print an invoice when due, but printing statements causes all
customers to be printed even if there is a zero balance.
An invoice is a bill. It is a notice to your customer that he owes you
money.

A statement is dirt, it has no legal standing, it is a reminder and not the
real thing. In many respects it is similar to your wife hinting about an
upcoming anniversary.

Statement print if there are any transctions in the period selected. If you
don't want zero-balance statements printed, check the box that says "Don't
print zero-balance statements."
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Also, having trouble finding out how to take existing transactions and make
them recurring or memorized on an annual basis. After reading manual that
seems to be related, I'm not finding much help.
When you memorize a transaction, you have the opportunity to have QB remind
you when it's time to invoke the transaction. This period can be daily,
weekly, monthly, yearly, once a decade, each St. Swithen's Day, during the
Vernal Equinox, or any other interval of your choosing. Further, you can
tell QB how many times to remind you.

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Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-12 03:28:32 UTC
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Thanks Jerry.
If you put nothing in the remind me # does it only remind you once? How do
you make it remind annually? Just entering 12 could work for a while, but
sometimes a zero entry = unlimited in some programs.
Post by JerryMouse
When you memorize a transaction, you have the opportunity to have QB remind
you when it's time to invoke the transaction. This period can be daily,
weekly, monthly, yearly, once a decade, each St. Swithen's Day, during the
Vernal Equinox, or any other interval of your choosing. Further, you can
tell QB how many times to remind you.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jefferis Peterson, Pres.
Web Design and Marketing
http://www.PetersonSales.com
Tee
2005-01-12 03:36:38 UTC
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Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Thanks Jerry.
If you put nothing in the remind me # does it only remind you once? How do
you make it remind annually? Just entering 12 could work for a while, but
sometimes a zero entry = unlimited in some programs.
In the Mac version, at least, using Remind Me doesn't allow for a number
remaining. Use the drop down at the top of the screen to select the
frequency (annually in this case). You can also choose to have the reminder
added to iCal.

Now if you choose to Automatically Enter a transaction *then* you have to
tell QB how many more times to automatically enter it.
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Tara
Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-12 14:59:49 UTC
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Thanks again TEE
And you are right about the Mac versions inability to modify fields in
layout. There is no layout mode. Only format which has limited options.
Jeff
Post by Tee
In the Mac version, at least, using Remind Me doesn't allow for a number
remaining. Use the drop down at the top of the screen to select the
frequency (annually in this case). You can also choose to have the reminder
added to iCal.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jefferis Peterson, Pres.
Web Design and Marketing
http://www.PetersonSales.com
Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-12 15:02:11 UTC
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BTW,
I'm not sure of the meaning of this, but when you use a statement, although
it is as good as "dirt" and has no legal standing, it actually enters an
amount of money into the register, so I am not sure what that will do to the
accounting totals!
Jeff
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
some programs.
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Tee
2005-01-12 15:13:19 UTC
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Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
BTW,
I'm not sure of the meaning of this, but when you use a statement, although
it is as good as "dirt" and has no legal standing, it actually enters an
amount of money into the register, so I am not sure what that will do to the
accounting totals!
Which register is it entering money into?

None of the companies I work for use finance charges so I set it up & did a
test one just so I could see what you were talking about. I'm only seeing a
new invoice in A/R for a finance charge I assessed on one customer via the
Print Statements window. Is that not how yours is working? BTW, I'm still
using 2004's version Pro 6.0

When I use File > Print > Statements I can then choose a customer, enter the
statement date range, and click Finance Charges. I'm asked to select a
customer to assess FCs on, which I do, and it then creates a separate
invoice in the A/R report for the finance charge alone.

When I setup the finance charge item, having done so through the Print
Statements window and not the Customer menu, I specified a percentage to
assess, whether or not I wanted QB to automatically create a FC invoice
ready to print, then assigned an income account to it.
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Tara
Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-12 20:01:04 UTC
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IT just appears in "use register" as STMNT charge. The register appears to
show all transactions like a Quicken version.
Post by Tee
Which register is it entering money into?
None of the companies I work for use finance charges so I set it up & did a
test one just so I could see what you were talking about. I'm only seeing a
new invoice in A/R for a finance charge I assessed on one customer via the
Print Statements window. Is that not how yours is working? BTW, I'm still
using 2004's version Pro 6.0
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Jefferis NoSpamme
2005-01-12 15:07:25 UTC
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Think I asked this before, but if you use auto enter annually, there is no
reminder to actually print out the invoice?? Does it appear in a to do list?

Jeff
Post by Tee
In the Mac version, at least, using Remind Me doesn't allow for a number
remaining. Use the drop down at the top of the screen to select the
frequency (annually in this case). You can also choose to have the reminder
added to iCal.
Now if you choose to Automatically Enter a transaction *then* you have to
tell QB how many more times to automatically enter it.
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Tee
2005-01-12 15:23:25 UTC
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Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Think I asked this before, but if you use auto enter annually, there is no
reminder to actually print out the invoice?? Does it appear in a to do list?
I don't know if it will appear in a to do list or not. It will
automatically appear in your A/P report and *should* be marked for printing
as long as the template you used to memorize the transaction was also
checked for printing.
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Tara
!
2005-01-12 14:48:41 UTC
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Windows versions:
"Zero remaining" means no entries will be posted or reminded.
"(Blank) remaining" means the entries or reminders will continue
indefinitely.

I don't know about the Mac version.
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
Thanks Jerry.
If you put nothing in the remind me # does it only remind you once?
How do
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
you make it remind annually? Just entering 12 could work for a
while, but
Post by Jefferis NoSpamme
sometimes a zero entry = unlimited in some programs.
Post by JerryMouse
When you memorize a transaction, you have the opportunity to have QB remind
you when it's time to invoke the transaction. This period can be daily,
weekly, monthly, yearly, once a decade, each St. Swithen's Day, during the
Vernal Equinox, or any other interval of your choosing. Further, you can
tell QB how many times to remind you.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jefferis Peterson, Pres.
Web Design and Marketing
http://www.PetersonSales.com
Paul Danaher
2005-01-12 12:39:09 UTC
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A major client has just asked freelancers to switch to monthly invoices. I'm
thinking of modifying a statement template, raising invoices as normal but
without sending them, and using a recurring (monthly) statement with the
template modified to client's format (or send the data to Word). Is this the
logical solution, or is there a simpler approach?
Allan Martin
2005-01-12 21:44:20 UTC
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Post by Paul Danaher
A major client has just asked freelancers to switch to monthly invoices.
I'm thinking of modifying a statement template, raising invoices as normal
but without sending them, and using a recurring (monthly) statement with
the template modified to client's format (or send the data to Word). Is
this the logical solution, or is there a simpler approach?
Yes there is. When you perform work for the client create an invoice and
mark it as pending. When you do more work call it up and add more charges to
it. At the end of the month make the invoice final and print.
Paul Danaher
2005-01-12 22:08:32 UTC
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Post by Allan Martin
Post by Paul Danaher
A major client has just asked freelancers to switch to monthly
invoices. I'm thinking of modifying a statement template, raising
invoices as normal but without sending them, and using a recurring
(monthly) statement with the template modified to client's format
(or send the data to Word). Is this the logical solution, or is
there a simpler approach?
Yes there is. When you perform work for the client create an invoice
and mark it as pending. When you do more work call it up and add more
charges to it. At the end of the month make the invoice final and
print.
Thank you - I hadn't thought of "pending" sales.

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